In 2371, the Obsidian Order and the Romulan Tal Shiar use the Orias System as a staging point for an attempted attack on the Founder homeworld in the Gamma Quadrant. However, the mission was a trap. The Tal Shiar (alternate spelling: Tal'Shiar) was an intelligence agency and secret police service of the Romulan Star Empire. Not to mention how they were willing … STO doesn't need even more contrived storylines than some of the ones it has already.

Obsidian Order & Tal Shiar aftermath. When the official offer was made, they were offered with the opportunity to decline. Per page: 15 30 50.

Unlike the Obsidian Order, the Tal Shiar was able to be rebuilt after the attack on the Founder homeworld. It was then discovered that the readings they were getting were false, and that they had fallen into a trap. How did the Obsidian order seemingly implod after the failed attack on The … #15 < > Showing 1-15 of 44 comments . Not really, because any KDF officer a the handful of actually sensible Starfleet officers would say, "Right, just let the bastards kill each other." As political and DS9 could get it has always suprised me this question or topic was never covered.

Who are these organizations? The attack is a failure and large numbers of ships and personnel from the two intelligence services are considered lost. Garak decides to flip sides and help Enabran Tain, who was leading the Obsidian Order mission with the help of Colonel Lovak of the Tal Shiar. I never could wrap my head around the whole “Tal Shiar vs Obsidian Order vs Section 31” thing in DS9. The Founders were no longer on what was thought to be their homeworld. Not really, because any KDF officer a the handful of actually sensible Starfleet officers would say, "Right, just let the bastards kill each other." Joined: Jan 24, 2002 Location: Hermans Head. We see in episodes like "Unification" and "Face of the Enemy" that Romulans are always wary that they're being watched by the Tal Shiar.

The Tal Shiar seems to operate much more openly than the Obsidian Order. The closest thing Section 31 could be compared to is the CIA, and they are neither autonomous nor officially denied.

• Obsidian Order • Tal Shiar • Treachery x2 • SECURITY ∇ Combined Strike Integrity: 2 Cunning: 10 Strength: 5 Rarity: 29* V (The Gamma Quadrant) Characteristics: Cardassian; Male; Legal Card Pools: Complete Traditional Virtual Block Legal Rules Sets: OTF Open Warp Speed Image Source: Deep Space Nine: "The Wire" Alternate Prints. After watching that DS9 Inter Arma ep a couple of thousand times, I couldnt help but be impressed with Section 31s handiwork. Persona Versions. In 2374, operatives of the Romulan Military hijacked the prototype starship USS Prometheus and attempted to bring it to the Empire. It plays on the idea that conspiracy theories and secret societies can exist in a democracy, a view point I do not share.

They were supposed to bring it to the Military but received orders during the operation to deliver it to the Tal Shiar's fleet instead. PorthosShadow Fleet Captain Fleet Captain. With all three hosts back in the studio for the first time in over month, Greg, Jeremy, and Derreck sit down to talk about Star Trek’s most secret and covert organizations, Section 31, the Obsidian Order, and the Tal Shiar. Some Obsidian Order vs Tal Shiar would be cool as a storyline. Im gonna go right ahead and say Section 31 would step all over the Tal Shiar. STO doesn't need even more contrived storylines than some of the ones it has already. And when Troi starts acting more arrogant and openly hostile, it's perceived as how the Tal Shiar normally act. Some Obsidian Order vs Tal Shiar would be cool as a storyline.

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Translations in context of "The Tal Shiar" in English-Spanish from Reverso Context: The Tal Shiar and the Obsidian Order are ruthless organisations, (DS9 SPOILERS) The Tal'Shiar had it's hit and misses when it comes to it's plans, and the Obsidian Order let itself get so arrogant and power hungry that it completely destroyed itself.
Discussion in 'Star Trek: Deep Space Nine' started by PorthosShadow, Dec 27, 2008. With all three hosts back in the studio for the first time in over month, Greg, Jeremy, and Derreck sit down to talk about Star Trek’s most secret and covert organizations, Section 31, the Obsidian Order, and the Tal Shiar. Ship. People who served in the regular Romulan Star Navy or the Romulan Ground Forces were sometimes offered Tal Shiar positions. Together, the Tal Shiar and Obsidian Order fleet moved through the Bajoran wormhole and arrived around the Changeling home planet where they opened a weapon volley that destroyed much of the planet's crust. Section 31, on the other hand, has stayed almost completely hidden for four centuries, always stayed true to it's mission as the Federation's garbage men, and somehow even when they lose, they win. However, there was no drop in life signs. … The Obsidian Order is effectively wiped out. They learn that, the Tal Shiar and Obsidian Order work together on a mission to destroy the Founder’s homeworld in the Gamma Quadrant. Of course, the Tal Shiar are not the only organization… and the Obsidian Order is about to teach those pointy-ears how it’s done. #15 < > Showing 1-15 of 44 comments .



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